Who You Calling Protectionist?

Well, that’s a very interesting comparison!
The “trade war” (or let’s say disbute)between the protectionist China and the protecthinist US has commonality(ies) with the “saliva war” here on this blog?
So, the two sides are —?
On the “trade war” front, Austin must remember, at present, the US protectionist is at odd not only with China, but also someone else, such as Canada, and EU, so in terms of the “saliva war” here on this blog, where are the other players and what are their positions?
A futher question is, are Austin and his colleagues either side in this war or in fact they are the “goods and services” the war is for?
Anyway, very interesting.

are Austin and his colleagues either one of the two sides in this war or in fact they are the “goods and services” the war is for?

Since all the Chinese have been complaining about US forcing them to produce cheap goods for the US and benefit from all these cheap goods, it is about time the Chinese stand up and refuse to sell to the US to starve US of all the cheap goods. If the US is helping them to do so by not buying Chinese, Chinese must be extremely happy about this so called “protectionism”.

Talking about neighbors, no one likes China in Asia (or on Earth). Not even North Korea. Ironically, ~40% of Chinese are deluded into thinking that other populations have a favorable view of their country’s foreign policy, when only ~10% actually do. In fact, unfavorables are higher than favorables.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/views_on_countriesregions_bt/584.php?lb=btvoc&pnt=584&nid=&id=

And of course, mainlanders rank bottom of any list, as usual.
http://hkupop.hku.hk/english/popexpress/people/datatables/datatable4.html

“No one likes China in Asia ?” Look at this piece:
http://tinyurl.com/kp8onz

What does “隔离式管理”, “全封闭管理” mean ? Other news reports also include “immigration control” and “border control”.

Oh, I’ve got it. Hong Kong and Macau are actually still under foreign colonial control, and that’s why China has to control its borders to these two colonial territories administered by the Western powers. The handing over control to China over a decade ago is just a charade, a show to pretend China’s sovereignty over these two colonial territories.

Or, is it a prison within a prison ?

A small step in quality and a big step in transparency:
http://tinyurl.com/m9glrn

I bet this has something to do with:
http://tinyurl.com/l6b3yc
to ensure all numbers comes out the way the Chinese government likes.

Now the the Green Dam has control over what you can receive, and there is a control of what they will give, when will they control what you believe ?

Sweet season of love.

Delicate star
of a beautiful
and inner emotion,
listen to me
when the sun
fades away:
there’s a candle
tonight in the
light of a silence,
and a season
of love….

Francesco Sinibaldi

http://www.cahiersducinema.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4940

Concrete piles with no re-bar!!

Another Chinese invention.
http://tinyurl.com/mlencq
http://tinyurl.com/m9rojh

These are piles accidentally exposed, showing the Chinese ingenuity of using unre-inforced concrete piles. This allows a 13 story building to be built on piles of 20 meters on refilled or sedimentary soil instead of piling to the bedrock.

Oh, yes, you can see a bit of some steel wires, about 1/100 the cross sectional area of standard reinforcing steel.

Wow, Eporch Time, which could rightly be nick named Everything Bad about China, has another horific news to report … Congratulations.
By the way, I remember Mr. Elegant complaint one of China’s newspaper (Glable Time? whatever) for publishing two different versions: and English one and and Chinese one.
Mr. Elegant must have noticed that Eporch Time, as a globally operated network with numerous local associates who are mostly jobless refugees, has numerous different versions. The English version, for example, looks much more subtle in reporting the bad news by mixing the bad with the numerous good local news … in order to attract local English readers. The Chinese version, is less sophisicated. It reads like the People’s Daily during its hay days (the Culture Revolution) with one exception — its quality in Chinese language is way below the standards of the People’s Daily back in the old days… For example, Yao Wen Yuan was a good writer, regardless of his political affilcation. Many writers for the Chinese version of the Eporch Time, are not. How could you expect refugees to write something that may be quite artistically articulated?

And by the way, the China-bashing clan, as many observers had concluded recently, has four major legs:
1. The FLG refugees;
2. The so-called overseas pro-democracy-and-human-rights movement, which itself consists of numerous small organizations in many cases one person per organization;
3. The Taiwanese seperatists;
4. The Tebetan seperatists.
This new “Gang of Four” actually had conflicting interests and in some cases fundemental disagreement on philosophies. But they do share one common thing: bashing China — since anything bad about China is good for the purpose of each of these gang members.
And since they are based in various locations outside of China, they’ve learnt the contemporary English terminologies that may be attractive to many ignorant western audients, namely the words related to democracy and human rights.

Unfortunately with the existance of the gang members, Austin’s post about the Sino-Us trade and commerce, is almost neglected.

Versions of stories of that glorious event in Shanghai:

1. The CIA sabotaged the building.
2. The building is fine. It is only playing hide and seek. It will be standing tall again soon and will be sold, again, to new proud owners.
3. The building is practicing push-ups. And that’s why one worker was killed.
4. No body died. And since this wonderful event, China has developed and opened and became prosperous. We must focus on how great China has done and not dwell on other stories.
5. The building fell off bad and was injured.
6. The building was suicided, by jumping off another building.
7. Nothing happened. That’s the way the building was designed, lying on its side. It is the new Chinese characteristics for all buildings. You will soon see other building copying this style.
8. The building is fine, and so are the others built with the same design by the same builder. This was confirmed within one hour of the incident with the fastest ever structural engineering assessment of buildings that broke the world record.
9. The building was just following the Chinese cultural tradition to relent to the wind, before the wind had to do something drastic. No Chinese should resist with any determination to opposition, to force the opposing power to use force.
10. It is all the westerners’ fault. No building of Chinese design ever fall down that way. It is the west that forced China to building building out of concrete. If the building was built with Chinese design of wood, brick and stone, it won’t fall this way. However, you can see the structure was fine. The whole building was intact even after it fell.

11. According to a China Daily reader, it is Google’s fault and the building developer should seek compensation. Because of Google, everyone in China and overseas knows about the incident. The publicity has jeopardised the developer’s hope of vindication through a fair trial. The reader expresses hope that this kind of bad publicity will come to an end with the introduction of the Green Dam Youth Escort.

China basher = China is evil. Let’s drop a nuke and bomb the crap out of it, since it’s a piece of crap anyway.

Racist = Chinese yellow skinned people are evil. Let’s round them up and slaughter them like animals, since they are.

But to brainwashed fenqing on the China Blog (and I’m curious why they’re even here reading English since it’s an evil foreign language written by evil Americans), you think China is evil if you say:

China is a peace-loving country, its people are civilized and nice and they deserve freedom and democracy.

Not to say they think all non-Chinese people are evil (especially whites). All who think different and look different from them are evil. All who genuinely support Taiwan and Tibet and Hong Kong are evil. All who pay taxes and fight for their country are evil (since fenqing only bark behind a computer screen and don’t pay taxes). A lot of evil out there, my friends. And look behind you, there’s an evil white guy stalking you.
Prove you aren’t incurably dumb by citing John Rawls or Plato or even the latest Chinese academic philosopher for once please. Obviously you can’t because you probably can’t even read Chinese. Ah, I guessed it. Bylooker and 2omrrow are CIA spies!

And 劉曉波, a Chinese living in China, must be evil too. Though the reason escapes me. I wonder if Zhao Ziyang is evil? Or (gasp!) how about Mao Zedong who wanted to murder 300 million of his own? How about Jiang Zemin who liked the U.S more than China? And why is bylooker paying taxes to Her Majesty’s government? He is definitely evil.

To fenqing, to criticize China means you are evil. Nuance means the West is more evil than China. Facts mean China good, not-China bad! Arguing means China(me) is always right, West(you) is always wrong! And there are no moral absolutes for fenqing apart from China = good, West = evil. Killing is acceptable if they are not Chinese. War is acceptable if China initiated it. Stealing is acceptable if they are the white guy’s things.
Well, that’s only if you get your way. For now, you must live with your imagined reality: you are still the white man’s slave and must read the white man’s propaganda!

chinabriefing
劉曉波is the same person who insists that nobody die on Tiananmen Square on June 4, 1989. Can you really trust him?

sing666:
It’s 侯德健, the Taiwanese singer.

C.A.
I think you can read Chinese. Here is a link:
Nobody died on the square on June 4,1989.
Western media said thousands died on the square.
http://64memo.com/b5/8665.htm
http://www.yzzk.com/cfm/Content_Archive.cfm?Channel=ae&Path=241276811/23ae4.cfm

sing666, I’m only here to point out to you that you’ve made a mistake. Everyone makes mistakes every now and then. What’s the big deal. You just have to be honest about it. Don’t try to pretend that you are sophisticated in the way you bash the Western media. Trust me, you are not. You just sound pathetic.

劉曉波:
Why is he in jail? It is because he receives over US$130,000 per year of funding from National Endowment for Democracy in the US which is a well-known CIA operation.
Here is the link: read it.
http://blog.foolsmountain.com/2008/12/31/%E5%8A%89%E6%9B%89%E6%B3%A2%E8%88%87%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E6%B0%91%E4%B8%BB%E5%9F%BA%E9%87%91%E6%9C%83-liu-xioabo-and-the-ned/
The lawsuit is being filed in the good old US of A.

I just wondering out loud? What 劉曉波 really wants for his activities? Money, fame, possibly a nobel prize. LOL

NED funding and the Chinese democracy movement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_democracy_movement
Who is NED.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_Democracy#Tibet

What does sing666/blooker/2moorrow and other pro-Communist fenqing really want for their activities? Money from the US Communist Party, fame in Communist circles and possibly the Most Patriotic Prize given to the least patriotic people.

Regarding your colleague at the CIA, you should say this: 劉曉波 is actually a white guy pretending to be Chinese! Like MJ the other way round! He is 侯德健 as he is John Smith as he is Hu Jintao as he is sing666!
The CIA is everywhere! Doom is nigh.

Chinese spies everywhere. Chinese intelligence operatives work by approaching ethnic Chinese by reminding them of “Chinese heritage, telling them they must help”. Just ask the fenqing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_intelligence_activity_in_other_countries

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/04/02/ST2008040204050.html

Are you sure your identity is safe, sing666? Chinese spies might catch you double-spying for the CIA.

And we all know about the mighty China lobby. Guess why businessmen Republicans are so pro-China these days. Guanxi is all important to do business in China they say. Talk about money influence.

The International Chinese Students and Scholars Association (CSSA) actively recruits spies with a mandate from the Chinese embassy at the host country, which provides unlimited funding. You can’t run for the CSSA committee without a mainland Chinese passport even if you’re Chinese. Go check for yourself by asking the local CSSA group. This is what I call dodgy business.
Sing666, you must investigate this further at your next CIA briefing.

Knowingly receiving money from NED to promote democracy in China is like drawing a bull-eye on your back for the Chinese security. Does he know that? Talking about dumb and dumber.

NED provides funding for Dalai Lama, Uyghur independent movement. Now, it is funding 劉曉波. Draw a conclusion yourself.

chinabriefing:
Did you arrange the funding for 劉曉波?

There is a competition here regarding who is spying on whom? who is more sophisticated than whom? and who is more pathetic than whom?
But this kind of exchange of words only proves one thing: the jobless refugees are really pathetic enough to not even be qualified as a spy which may require certainly level of sophistication in terms of skills, knowledge, and capability of comprehension.

The Chinese Ministry of Information provides funding for Chinese spies and spy recruitment, including those in their own country: such as the China Liaison Office in Macau and Hong Kong. A universally known secret.

“There is a competition here regarding who is spying on whom? who is more sophisticated than whom? and who is more pathetic than whom?”

Very good. Light is starting to dawn on you. You are starting to get a sense of relativity. No longer do you think China = good; West = evil. It is now China = evil; West = eviler. Soon you will see that West = evil; China = eviler.

NED also funded Zhao Ziyang; it funded Jiang Zemin; it funded Ma ying-jeou and Donald Tsang. And it funds sing666 and 2morrow! Sorry that your Mao Zedong was funded by the Soviet spy ring and COMINTERN, scammed by them and then killed 70 million of your countrymen. Sorry that your Deng Xiaoping betrayed Communism by getting funding from capitalists who then spied on him.

When it comes to the topic of espionage, one should never under estimate the role of the CCP’s United Front Department and its overseas stooges such as the US-China People’s Friendship Association.

Well, I suppose an association to promote friendship is much better than a cult consisting of desperate jobless losers to promote hatred, in name of whatever political ideology, even democracy.

It is a good way to make money while leaving in North America. Write something critical of ccp. Print a magazine around that topic and apply for NED funding. Can you live off $100,000 per year doing that. You will get more money if you advocate democracy and break up of China. May be $300K. Long live democracy.
Comment on Obama’s action towards Iran and Hondonrus from the feature article by Fareed Zakaria:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/204225/output/comments
“Posted By: paulejb @ 06/30/2009 3:01:28 AM
Strange how Obama is so cautious in dealing with the thugs in Tehran and pledges not to meddle but is vociferous in his condemnation of the Honduran attempt to preserve democracy. It would seem that the Obama administration reserves it’s harsh words for our allies. Ahmadinejad, the Castro brothers, Daniel Ortega and Hugo Chavez get a pat on the back from Obama but our friends in Israel, Britain and Honduras get the back of the hand.”
Coup in Hondurus is described as an attempt to preserve democracy. Americans do have their hands in those two events. It might not have been directed from the white house.
So much so for democracy.

If you really think that the US-China People’s Friendship Association is there to promote “friendship”, I suggest you should check out a few of its founding members such as Clark Kissinger, Carl Davidson, Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and the “Weathermen”. I’m wondering why the United Front Department’s closest allies in the USA is linked to a terrorist organisation.

“It’s 侯德健, the Taiwanese singer.”

Don’t confuse him with facts. He believes only in propaganda from the right source.

“China Liaison Office in Macau and Hong Kong” is a branch of the Chinese Foreign Ministry, a department of the State Council. (Foreign ? Another proof that Hong Kong and Macau don’t really belongs to China, and are still under the rule of colonial powers ?)

It is a general practice in the diplomatic service world that diplomatic delegations are just fronts for intelligence gathering – political, military, industrial, cultural, etc. etc. The so called “Legal Attache”, “Military Attache”, “Commerce Attache” are usually station chiefs of spying activities.

That’s why I was surprised when Deng Xiaoping visited France, after China’s “opening up”, and he was surprised at how advance French industry was. Isn’t that the job of the Chinese “Commerce Attache” in France to have told Deng way before his visit ? Someone was not doing his job ?

This incident really highlighted the communication process within the Chinese government.

“If you really think that the US-China People’s Friendship Association is there to promote “friendship”,”

Someone here also used articles in “Salon” to imply how bad US is too… But let them be. These are good indications of how well informed they are.

“It is a good way to make money while leaving in North America.”

True, all true. All Chinese in mainland China has left North America, or has never set foot in North America. And they are swimming in cash, with way more money than any American.

“Strange how Obama is so cautious in dealing with the thugs in Tehran and pledges not to meddle but is vociferous in his condemnation of the Honduran attempt to preserve democracy.”

It is quite understandable for people who believe it is right for soldiers to fire machine guns at their own fellow countrymen to confuse a military coup with civilians demonstrating on streets.

johnsmith9876:
Are you finally over the edge now?
I can recommend a hospital for you in Canada. It is free of charge if you are a Canadian. Oh. no.

John, Long time no see! Is the “Canadian” five jiao bashing his gasbag head?

Correction: “Canadian pensioner-fivejiao”!

how come this johnsmith9876 have so much time and so much energy to condem China here,unless u r really jobless one. or sombody pay you for professionly criticize CHina.