Why Are Some U.S. Politicians Trying to Remove an Iranian ‘Cult’ From the Terror List?

The two leading figures of Iran’s opposition Green Movement – presidential candidates Mir Hossein Moussavi and Mehdi Karroubi are under arrest as the regime cracks down on any effort to emulate the Arab world’s democracy rebellions. But Iran’s opposition may be in store for another blow – this time, at the hands of those in Washington who profess to support their cause.

A newly fashionable foolishness in Washington is public advocacy by leading establishment figures on behalf of Iran’s Mujahedeen e-Khalq (MEK), which has since 1997 been on the State Department’s list of foreign terror organizations. It may be a radical group founded from a mix of Marxist and Islamist ideas, which the State Department says killed Americans working in Iran in the 1970s and which served as an adjunct to Saddam Hussein — and it may function as a cult, according to the RAND Corporation, with many members forced to remain in the organization against their will — but the campaign to take it off the State Department’s “terrorist” list unites longtime neocon ideologues, former U.S. military and security officials, Republican presidential hopefuls and now a growing number of senior Democratic foreign policy mavens.

And it appears to be well-funded, with a number of the speakers at the campaign’s keynote events admitting to having been paid to show up, most recent among them, former Democratic congressman Lee Hamilton, a respected foreign policy grey-beard.

The MEK was created in the mid-1960s to fight the Shah of Iran. Although it participated in the revolution of 1978/9, it broke with the Islamists and went into armed opposition as they took over, launching a number of terror attacks inside Iran. It was welcomed into Iraq by Saddam Hussein as a proxy force against his enemies in Tehran, establishing its main military base at Camp Ashraf in eastern Iraq. The MEK fought alongside Iraqi forces against Iran in the brutal war that raged from 1980-1988, a fact that has forever damned it in the eyes of millions of Iranians — even those who are willing to challenge the current regime.

When the U.S. occupied Iraq in 2003, the fate of the MEK became an American problem. While the Bush Administration, in line with the terrorist designation and commitments to Iran, undertook to close the camp, it hedged on the issue as more hawkish elements in and around the Administration lobbied furiously for the MEK to be supported as a proxy force to wage war against Iran — you know, just like Saddam had done. The MEK claims to have renounced violence in 2003, and has been lobbying to have its “terrorist” status changed in the West — an effort that succeeded in Europe in 2009 when it was removed from the EU equivalent of the State Department’s list. Camp Ashraf remains open, however, although the Iraqi government has demanded its closure — although as U.S. influence declines, an Iran-friendly Iraqi government could move against it.

That’s one of the concerns animating the sudden show of sympathy for the group in Washington. Another is frustration at the failure of U.S. efforts thus far to compel Iran to relinquish its nuclear program – and a desire to seek regime change on the cheap. And then there’s also clearly a smart lobbying effort on behalf of the MEK, whose membership is believed to number between 5,000 and 10,000, and its political wing, the Paris-based National Council of Resistance.

At a recent event, former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson, who was President Clinton’s U.N. Ambassador at the time the MEK was added to the “terrorist” list, said Iranians’ “thirst for freedom and democracy” required that it be taken off the list. Former Joint Chiefs chairman General Hugh Shelton said that the MEK was “the largest organized resistance to Iran’s current regime” and urged that it be immediately removed from the list. “MEK is obviously the way that Iran needs to go,” he added.

Speaking at an event in Paris last December along with former Bush cabinet member Tom Ridge and GOP presidential hopeful Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, former Homeland Security czar Michael Mukasey called the MEK “a moderate, secular and democratic political organization as well as the largest and most organized opposition group in Iran.” And last month, former New Jersey Democratic Senator Robert Torricelli chaired a panel urging the Obama Administration to embrace the MEK, that included former CENTCOM chief Anthony Zinni, former Obama National Security Adviser Gen. Jim Jones, and President Bush’s former U.N. ambassador, the arch-hawk John Bolton. Even more bizarre was Torricelli’s “by any means necessary” logic when he asked, last month, “Is it even possible to oppose a terrorist state, and be a terrorist yourself?”

The answer, for grownups, is yes, it is quite possible. Terrorism is not simply an epithet applied to those we don’t like; if the term is to have any meaning at all it has to have an objective definition — and typically, in international forums, that definition involves the systematic directing of violence against non-combatants in pursuit of political goals. And by that measure, the MEK has engaged in acts of terrorism — although there’s certainly a case to be made that throughout history, groups that have engaged in terrorism have later become part of the political process in their countries.

But the problem with Washington’s new MEK fantasy is that — like its fascination with the Iraqi exile Ahmed Chalabi who nine years ago convinced American leaders that their troops would be greeted by Iraqis with “sweets and flowers” — it is failing to notice the obvious: Just as the CIA used to joke that Chalabi was far more influential along the Potomac than he was along the Tigris, so are the new crowd of MEK converts ignoring the fact that the MEK is detested not only by Iran’s regime, but also by the very opposition movement that has challenged the regime in the streets.

When the Green Movement took to the streets took to challenge the regime in the wake of Iran’s contested 2009 presidential election,  the regime sought to portray the MEK as behind the movement, in order to discredit it in the eyes of ordinary Iranians.

Former presidential candidate Mehdi Karroubi was having none of it, branding the MEK a “hypocritical and dead organization”. Fellow Green Movement leader Zahra Rahnavard, wife of Mir Hussein Moussavi, was even more forthright in an interview with a Farsi news outlet last year: “This government has tried to revive the MEK by associating it with the Green Movement, which again is a very funny notion because the Green Movement is a people’s movement that is alive and dynamic and holds a very red wall between itself and the MEK.”

Tehran-based journalist Jason Rezaian  writes that the hostility is based on the MEK having fought for Saddam Hussein in a war that left hundreds of thousand of Iranians dead or maimed. It’s regarded in the same way that Americans view John Walker Lindh. “There are still thousands, perhaps millions, of Iranians completely willing to speak openly about their attitudes on the 2009 election,” Rezaian writes, “but good luck finding a single person who is pro-MEK.”

“Sitting here in Tehran,” he continues, “the mere thought of the MEK becoming a legitimate contributor to the policy dialogue on Iran is laughable, except to those of us who would actually like to see an end to the more than three decades of animosity between the U.S. and Iran, and hope for a productive future relationship through real diplomacy. To us — and we are much stronger in number than the MEK could ever hope to be — the idea is insane, heartbreaking and reprehensible.”

That view is echoed by Michael Rubin in Commentary magazine, proving that not all neocons share the enthusiasm of some for the MEK. “There is no doubt that the [MEK] has targeted Americans, and no amount of slick public relations should erase that. During my time in Iran, it was clear that while Iranians respect the United States and have little good to say about their own government, they all detest the [MEK]… One thing is certain: embracing the [MEK] is the surest way to make anti-American the 65 million Iranians who dislike their government and dislike theocracy.”

Rubin is also skeptical of the roots of the current campaign to legitimize the MEK: “If American officials call for the delisting of the MKO, that is their right. For an honest debate on the issues, however, they should acknowledge the honorarium or consulting fees they receive from the group.”

Given President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s own propaganda efforts to link Iran’s domestic opposition to the MEK, though, it’s hard to imagine he’d have any problem with Washington embracing the group.

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  • michaelfury

    “Were they misleading me? You always can be misled.”

    - Lee Hamilton, 9/11 Commission Co-Chairman

    He ought to know.

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/an-affront-to-the-memory/

  • http://azadi2011.wordpress.com azadi2011

    Good piece, Tony. I’m glad to see people are waking up to what the MEK is doing.

    Check out this article in TPM too: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/ex-officials_say_they_were_paid_to_attend_pro-mek_events.php

    By the way, prepare for an army of angry comments from MEK members. They’re a really dedicated group (as most cults are.)

  • http://justicendpeace.wordpress.com justicendpeace

    What a piece. The Iranian regime orchestra is playing a harmonic piece. It started with the composer in Tehran. An unknown reporter named Jason! Rezaian, apparently from the office of Iran’s MOIS (because all independent journalists are either imprisoned of were forced to leave the country) leads the orchestra. The players are Iranian regime’s known lobby in the USA who follow the official line. 80% against the regime and 20% demonize the real opposition, the PMOI.
    Jason! claims that the PMOI has no support amongst Iranians. He was quoted in this article “but good luck finding a single person who is pro MEK” while Hillary Clinton mentioned two by name last December who were later executed after a third, Ali Saremi.
    Tony falsely claims “ When the Green Movement took to the streets to challenge the regime…” while the Green leaders assert they are not challenging the regime but they want to correct its behavior to bring back the dead ayatollah’s values and follow Khomeini’s line. The Khamenei-Ahmadinejad gang also claim they are the true followers of the dead imam’s line. But what is the dead imam’s line? 120,000 executions, 1988 massacre of 30,000 political prisoners great majority of whom were supporters of PMOI, the 8 year war with Iraq and all the devastations, an economy that belongs to ‘donkeys’ (ruling Iran today); in short nothing but death and destruction. I don’t think the brave people of Iran who risk their lives coming to streets chanting death to principle of velayate faghih and death to Khamenei have anything to do with the green leaders who don’t even call for death to Ahmadinejad. So when you hear these slogans in the streets you know very well that the regime officials are right to blame all the unrest on PMOI. After all it is only the PMOI and their allies in NCRI who have called for a total downfall of the regime of Velayate Faghih, the absolute rule of the clergy.
    It is foolish to expect to judge the support of PMOI in Iran (and for that matter in the USA so long as this unjust and perverse label is hanging over their head), by asking people to openly express their allegiance. I just say if they are as insignificant as the composer of this orchestra suggests, then what the fuss is. Why on earth you encourage the US government to reject the US court ruling and become an outlaw government for keeping a “small” group that does not matter for Iran, enchained. It is interesting that this “small” group can pay for so many top officials to ‘buy’ their support.
    The reality is that the PMOI represents the aspirations of millions in Iran who cry freedom and want to get rid of this medieval dictatorship. Hence Iranian regime’s lobby is worried about losing their lucrative but disgraceful job, advocating for the evil regime.

  • http://johnalterman.wordpress.com johnalterman

    Tony Caron, is expected to do better than that. I just can’t follow his argument. It is a hodgepodge that seems to me a copy paste of various people’s argument without going thru journalistic scrutiny.
    If it is true that this MEK group is so detested by its own people because it sided with Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war, so that means the war has to be a very popular thing and that war heroes would be the heroes of the nation.
    Now, wouldn’t that make Ahmadinejad, who was a top commander in the Iran-Iraq war, the most popular person in Iran? and by extension, the Islamic Republican Guards, otherwise known as the IRGC, would also be very popular?!
    But the youth in the streets of Tehran don’t seem to be interested in a war with Iraq (especially if it was fought before they were even born), or the Great Satan, do they? The only evidence you are producing that the group is hated by its people is that two opposition figures who are threatened by the regime have distanced themselves from the group! Well, I would do the same if I were Mussavi and Karobi.
    However you cite no evidence that the group is engaged in terrorism and yet you argue that it should remain on the terrorist list? I just don’t understand why? Are you saying that the U.S. should keep a group on the terrorist list because both the Iranian regime and a former prime minister and a former speaker of the parliament say they should remain on the list?!
    I think I have more faith in the judgment of Lee Hamilton, whom I respect a lot, than that of Iranian regime officials. Unless you come up with a better argument, I am, so far, tilting toward this MEK group. At least they have shown some guts to stand against Ahmadnejad and the big ayatollah.

  • http://tehranfocus.wordpress.com majidsaatchi

    You’re damn right they are sick and tired of being blacklisted for purely political reasons and under the table deals with the Savages of Tehran. So are the majority of patriotic Iranians who for years now have endured the pain, not only from the barbarians dominating Iran, but from the State Department and people like you, who play a double game and engage in double entendre…as you have done throughout your article.

    The brave Iranian people who have poured into the streets of Tehran and other cities throughout the country are Mad as Hell, to see their main opposition group, these true children of their liberation, with more than 120,000 fallen for the cause of liberty, and thousands in the dungeons of the Butchers of Tehran, to be called these infamous names, all to appease a gang of thugs, who have brought nothing but misery, torture, rape and murder to their people.

    The organization has renounced violence, and has been extremely patient with the crimes committed against it, whether at Ashraf Camp in Iraq, or inside Iran against its supporters and the parents and relatives of Ashraf residents, and instead has acted responsibly by providing the West with valuable information regarding mullahs nuclear weapons sites, and for all intents and purposes, has displayed its bona fides as the friend and ally of the US and Western World.

    The European Union and the UK were ordered by their high courts to de-list the group, why shouldn’t the US? Except that the State Dept. and people like you are in the business of appeasing, not the national security of the United States of America.

    The whole fraudulent dossier was compiled by Jack Straw (former British Foreign Secretary) along with foreign office’s mullah experts, and the collusion of the mullahs in Tehran, and presented to the Europeans and the US, who mistakenly saw an opening and a rapprochement with the mullahs at the time of Mohammad Khatami’s presidency who supposedly headed the so-called reformist faction of the savages.

    Well, now let’s look at this carefully. How is it that neither the UK nor the EU courts found any so-called classified documents, and threw the case out of court and gave back the PMOI and the Iranian people their honor. It’s quite simple… there is no indication that the group has engaged in any violent act for more than 8 years.

    Why does the State Department and the US government still insist on a failed policy that was initiated in 1997, and the blacklisting of the PMOI was one of the key demands the mullhas made, to start some sort of dialogue which ran into a dead end and the catastrophic emergence of a lunatic like Ahmadinejad?

    The response to this question is also very simple…Appeasement, Accommodation and God knows what goes through the mind of State Dept. functionaries.

    And finally a word of advice to the columnist…bone up on your writing, sense of history and integrity in journalism. You’re all over the map buddy…contradictory and malicious throughout your so-called column.

    All that said, the american Judicial System is a hallowed institution and its court system will soon make the right decision; that is giving back the PMOI their rightful place in history, and consider them and American ally and friend rather than keeping them in the blacklist.

  • http://ross75.wordpress.com ross75

    Here you go again. Another attempt to help Mullahs. i do not believe these respectable former officials have supported MEK for money. the fact is these officials or former officials believe in what they say otherwise they would not put their reputation in jeopardy. MEK is gaining more support inside and outside of Iran every day and it makes Mullahs and their supporters nervous. Calling MEK “cult’ is really insult to people of Iran and so many open minded supporters of MEK

  • http://ccnireport.wordpress.com ccnireport

    My name is Asad D. and as A freelance journalist for Glob cast and CNN i Report, I am totally shocked to see such horrible unjustified vicious article specially in time where the whole world is watching time to Tyrone and dictatorship has ended and such ashamed to see these countries such as Egypt and Tunisia and Libya and etc…are hungry for non religious more Democratic leadership but they have no figure head organized opposition!
    the only country who has inspired the region and the rest of world to not give up hope for freedom and peace and love compassion prosperity and liberty is Iranian Historical movement of MEK who are students of Doctor Mossadegh and the rest of Persian hero’s….
    come on, lets be honest, who are we fooling with this paid article?
    how is it possible that MEk can brain wash or fool so many smart world leaders and dignitaries and minsters and senators and congress men or women… plus 10% of 80 million Iranians are active supporters of this org.
    they want to make iran’s evin prison and halabi aubud and can city where people live in pits and cans to a museum so world will now what happened in Iran was 10 times worse the Holocaust.
    you must kill the cancer @ it’s root which is Iran brutal regime.

  • centerngs1

    CenterNGS 1

    Repetition of the same old crap by a journalist who is either in the mullahs’ pocketss or his interests and those who back him up, lie in their survival.

    What else would prompt an individual to bad-mouth a group that has sacrificed life, limb and treasure for close to a half century for the liberation of the Iranian people and emancipation of her women!!!

  • centerngs1

    In Dante’s Divine Comedy, the Inferno, the Eighth Circle is defined as fraud, and we observe nothing but THAT in this article by Tony Karon, and his malicious observatio¬ns. There are of course problems with the newspaper business.

    Some of the most reputed and venerable ones are encounteri¬ng financial dilemma, thus they may have to put themselves up on the block … but none has, at least yet, engaged in the kind of insidious Yellow Journalism as bad as Tony’s outfit.

    And the reason is quite obvious; the mullahs have deep pockets and some certain journalists are easy to fool and perhaps even easy to buy by the mullahcrac¬y in Tehran. You can see that we have a perfect match here. And believe me, as a former journalist who never sacrificed the truth for the sake of fame or fortune, I can say in no uncertain terms that this thing stinks to high heaven.

    Why do you think the people at Le Monde don’t engage in this act of unpreceden¬ted treachery against a people who are fighting for their basic rights? They could easily solve their financial problems, the way Tony has done; but when Charles de Gaulle requested the establishm¬ent of Le Monde as the counterwei¬ght to Le Temps suspected of complicity with the Germans, Hubert Beuve-Mery set the foundation¬s of an independen¬t newspaper, run by its journalist¬.

    As for you Tony, you shall, for good, will be the bête noire of any human being with the slightest conscience¬, and the reasons behind your intentions will be chronicled in every opportunity I shall find in these pages numerous times…

    Stand by for some more goodies!!!

    CenterNGS 1

  • centerngs1

    Why do you and the mullahs and the rest, fear so much from delisting a group that as you say so much hated by the Iranian people? Why does the regime spend tens of millions of dollars to utilize lobbyists in the West to keep them in the list?

    Why do they send mercenaries to Iraq to massacre the residents of Ashraf, in collusion with Iraqi government of Al-Maliki and his goons?

  • centerngs1

    Have you been watching the Libyan quagmire? What about Egypt? Do you really think everything is going to be honky dory about Mubarak?

    Come on mean wake up; the PMOI/MEK is the only viable democratic and Third Option to the Order of the Middle Ages established by the barbaric mullahs… and the so-called leaders of the Green Movement are an anachronism…

  • centerngs1

    As some smart soul pointed out in these pages, do you really believe that the PMOI has the capability to bring so many distinguished personalities, who have had access to classified intelligence, to their so-called “CULT”? You are either getting paid, or smoking something really potent!!!

  • centerngs1

    You see Tony, if you really have any decency; you wouldn’t even contemplate to compile such untruths spewed by a gang thugs whose hands have spilled the blood of thousands of PMOI/MEK members in 1988, when they were the right hand men to the head henchman Khomeini.

    You’re damn right!!! I’m talking about Mousavi and the rest of the thugs you believe they can overthrow this monstrous regime!!!

    Look at the facts on the ground!!! The reason our country can make a realistic and viable decision about the domino theory that is engulfing the Middle East and North Africa, and its disastrous consequences, is that there is no democratic alternative!!!

    Have you been watching the Libyan quagmire? What about Egypt? Do you really think everything is going to be honky dory after Mubarak?

    Come on man, wake up; the PMOI/MEK is the only viable democratic and Third Option to the Order of the Middle Ages established by the barbaric mullahs… and the so-called leaders of the Green Movement are an anachronism…

    Read more: http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/03/04/why-are-some-u-s-politicians-trying-to-remove-an-iranian-cult-from-the-terror-list/#ixzz1FhhW4wqM

  • centerngs1

    Why do you and the mullahs and the rest, fear so much from delisting a group that as you say so much hated by the Iranian people? Why does the regime spend tens of millions of dollars to utilize lobbyists in the West to keep them in the list?

    Why do they send mercenaries to Iraq to massacre the residents of Ashraf, in collusion with Iraqi government of Al-Maliki and his goons?

    You see Tony, if you really have any decency; you wouldn’t even contemplate to compile such uuntrue statements spewed by a gang thugs whose hands have spilled the blood of thousands of PMOI/MEK members in 1988, when they were the right hand men to the head henchman Khomeini.

    You’re damn right!!! I’m talking about Mousavi and the rest of the thugs you believe they can overthrow this monstrous regime!!!

    Look at the facts on the ground!!! The reason our country can’t make a realistic and viable decision about the domino theory that is engulfing the Middle East and North Africa, and its disastrous consequences, is that there is no democratic alternative!!!

    Have you been watching the Libyan quagmire? What about Egypt? Do you really think everything is going to be honky dory after Mubarak?

    Come on man, wake up; the PMOI/MEK is the only viable democratic and Third Option to the Order of the Middle Ages established by the barbaric mullahs… and the so-called leaders of the Green Movement are an anachronism…

    As some smart soul pointed out in these pages; do you really believe that the PMOI has the capability to bring so many distinguished personalities, who have had access to classified intelligence, to their so-called “CULT”?

    You are either getting paid, or smoking something really potent!!!

    CenterNGS1

    Read more: http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/03/04/why-are-some-u-s-politicians-trying-to-remove-an-iranian-cult-from-the-terror-list/#ixzz1FhiJFPFb

  • centerngs1

    Thanks to Johnalterman:

    A wonderfully logical and extremely well-debated point regarding the unpopular and devastating and pointless war with Iraq that was initiated by the DEAD HENCHMAN, Khomeini, brining more than eight years of misery, destruction and tens of thousands of dead and wounded to a nation that could have built its infrastructure, rather than spending billions in the black market to buy arms.

    And the endgame; the monster had to finally drink the poison and surrender after having caused the killing more than several hundred thousand on both sides and the destruction of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of infrastructure in the oil and other sectors.

    This writer has concrete and authentic information that in the early spring of 1979 when the Iraqi ambassador in Tehran, where a reception was held for diplomats and journalists, was given note that Khomeini and his underlings in Iraq had begun stirring trouble in Iraqi cities, at which time, the ambassador disappeared and never came back to the reception, and the next day the drums of war began to be heard in the region.

    And of course, what a great favor we did to the savages, by expending billions in treasure and thousands in lives, to deliver Iraq to them I n a silver platter. A country that after almost eight years of devastation is still experiencing internecine conflict; a problem that will be bedeviling us for years to come and as Collin Powell said “you break it, you own it.”

  • http://tehranfocus.wordpress.com majidsaatchi

  • http://ccnireport.wordpress.com ccnireport

    Cult?
    or you mean Freedom Fighters?
    I am not a member of MEK!
    But you are indeed wrong. or on someone’s payroll.

  • centerngs1

    This article was written by CenterNGS in the aftermath of the fraudulent elections orchestrated by the regime itself and whose candidates were approved by Akhond Khamenei.

    In the hope that this would bring some insight into the reality of the so-called leaders of the Green Movement, and to the author of this column, Tony Karon:

    CenterNGS1

    IRAN ERUPTS IN RAGE
    SHAM ELECTIONS
    OPPOSITION TO THE ENTIRE SYSTEM

    CNGS ANALYSIS

    It is obvious that the Courageous and intrepid Iranian protesters and their leaders will not be fooled by the tactical retreat on the part of the insidious Akhond Ali Khamenei. His only aim is to ride out the fury of the suffering people of Iran, having been shackled by a gang of thugs and lumpens, and whose opposition is to the entirety of the system, not only the spurious elections.

    Khamenei displayed his Machiavellian skills when he approved the the participation of his archenemy Musavi, who was his intractable vice president during Iran-Iraq war, while Khomeini was still alive, and in most instances, the head henchman sided with Musavi, as opposed to Khamenei. However, his scheme backfired and thus this historic tactical retreat.

    This writer is quite familiar with the character of Ali Khamenei and very much conscious of his deceitful and sly fashions he deals with his opponents, not to speak of the savages aiding him in his demonic designs.

    It is imperative to note that all the top henchmen of this order of the Middle Ages are up to their neck in corruption, and every one of them is responsible for the murdering of tens of thousands of innocent political prisoners and hundreds of thousands of Iranian regulars, mostly teenagers who were sent to the minefields of Iran-Iraq War without protection or guidance, only with a key to heaven around their neck. THESE CRIMES MUST NOT BE FORGIVEN BY THE CIVILIZED NATIONS OF THE WORLD, PARTICULARLY, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO HAD THEIR OWN REVOLUTION AGAINST THE TYRANNY OF THE BRITISH COLONIALISM.

    It is even more important for the new US administration not to misread the fury of the Iranian people yet again, and stand on the side of the Iranian people, as opposed to the illegitimate barbaric regime of the mullahs, dominating a land possessing a glorious history and culture that has been wiped clean by the savages.

    Today’s speech by President Barack Obama can be considered disappointing at best. On the one hand he referred to Ahmadinejad’s behavior as “Odious” and on the other he said he is willing to sit at the negotiating table with an odious creature. What a contradiction, all for the sake of pragmatism, and perhaps short-term interests of his administration.

    He, in effect, is telling the henchmen that if you are willing to deal, we will kiss and make up and forgive and forget all your crimes and deceitful electioneering. And at the same time he is telling the dead and hundreds of injured protesters, we don’t care much about your cause, as long as things don’t spin out of control and we are able to maintain our interests in the region and deal with the mullahs. THE IRANIAN PEOPLE AND IRANIAN-AMERICANs WITHIN AND WITHOUT THE COUNTRY, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF WHOM, INCLUDING THIS WRITER AND HIS FAMILY WHO VOTED FOR MR. OBAMA, EXPECTED A GREAT DEAL BETTER DELIVERY THAN HE transmitted THIS AFTERNOON.

    It is also important to note that many of the past and present leaders of the mullahcracy should be brought to justice in a Nuremberg style tribunal for CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY AND WAR CRIMES. The civilized community of nations and all the freedom-loving people of the world over, can not afford another Neville Chamberlain miscalculation and naivete’.

    And finally, the mafia style savagery amongst the different factions of the regime, has not produced any winners; they have all lost; as such, sooner or later, once they pacify the people, they will get together and reconcile, for all are woven of the same cloth!!!

    Mr. Obama do the right thing!!!!

    CNGS

  • http://massoudt.wordpress.com massoudt

    With the current uprising of the Iranian people against the criminal regime of the mullahs’ is on the brink of collapse. Once again the media campaign of their agents in the West has picked up in order to discredit and demonize and discredit the main organized opposition group i.e. MEK. We Iranians who have followed the course of events since 1979 Revolution (stolen by the mullahs), know the facts and fictions. I would advise Mr. Karon to do his due diligence before diving into a complex topic as the Iranian revolution of 1979 and not to come across as the mullahs’ agent.

    7 European Courts including UK , 16 months of investigation of MEK members in Camp Ashraf (Iraq) by 7 different US law agencies all found MEK of no wrong doings. So far 120,000 Iranians mostly MEK members have been killed by the mullahs. The UK and European Courts ordered the terror de-listing of MEK in 2008.

    MEK has always invited the mullahs regime with their agents to bring all their documents and allegations to an un-biased Court (like US, EU or UK ).

  • http://mehdi79.wordpress.com mehdi79

    Tony, the fact that you chose to brand the MEK as “cult” in the title of your article indicates you already have made your mind about the group and your the assessment therefore is discredited. How could anyone other the Iranian mullahs be happy with the keeping on the blacklist this capable dissident of the fascist theocratic regime ?

    You call the recent awareness of the US officials of the necessity of the removal of the group from the black list as a fashionable foolishness; where were you when they unfairly put them on the list in the first place?

    It is true that the regime has been using the presence of the MEK in Iraq at war time as a major pretext for discrediting of the group, but as the communication media improves and the MEK is being able to communicate more effectively with people, the propaganda urns against the regime. Now people understand that, after the retreat of the Iraqi forces to the borders in the second year of the war, when MEK made peace agreement with Iraq, the continuation of the war was not in the national interest of Iranians, rather, they were the clergies who utilized the country’s resources to advance their regional expansionist plans. While the regime was sending thousands of underage youth to the war to walk in mine fields to clear the way for troops, MEK fighters were priding themselves by launching armed operations to end the reign of the ruthless warmonger mullahs.

    You directly or indirectly accuse those politicians who favor the delisting of the group are receiving “honorarium” for their advocacy. If such a “small” foreign group with little resources can “buy” the top reputed officials with a history of patriotic pride, the Iranian regime with billions of dollars of oil money can easily hire many blogists to work for them as proxies.

    You concluded that Ahmadinejad is not going to have a problem with embracing of Washington the MEK. The facts say opposite though! You have better to ask any politician familiar with Iran politics to learn that in every related and unrelated meeting with Western diplomats, regime’s negotiator’s first and main concern is the MEK and how to make sure that the US and EU governments keep distance from them.

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    The Islamic regime in Iran is evil but the MKO, MEK or whatever you want to call them are far worse.

    Lets not forget they killed US servicemen in Iran during the 70s and they are a communist. They only believe there is should be one leader and that is Rajavi and his wife Maryam..

    I knew a few memebers where they wanted to get out fo this cult like organization and they were threaten with their lives.. And the fact of the matter is Iranians in Iran hate them, they see them as traitors when they sided with Saddam, they even knew Saddamn was using chemical weapons against Iranian soilders but the MKO didn’t say a word about it.

    The bottomline is the US can take the MKO off the terrorist list but at the end of the day it is the deicsion of the people in Iran to decide who they want as a leader and I know for a fact Rajavi will have no place..

    Always remember, the Devil you know is better than the devil you don’t…

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    Here is an eye opener,

    a list of names that defected from the MKO cult.

    http://www.nejatngo.org/en/defectors.aspx?v=news

  • http://justicendpeace.wordpress.com justicendpeace

    This is well known site of Iranian regime MOIS. The mere fact that this list exists shows that everything you say is a lie. If you look at every freedom movement in the past century and even in the laws of democratic countries the punishment for betrayers is death of life time imprisonment. So the mere fact that ex-members can criticize and leave the group without punishment as such, proves they are lying.

    In the History there have been many defectors. No one in their right mind would use them as credible evidence but the tyrants and their advocates.

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    I didn’t even know it is the site of the Islamic regime. But from what i read it seems to be true because I have spoken to ex members of this cult and they have told me that once you get in it is hard to get out.

    The Islamic regime is on its final leg standing and soon it will be overthrown by the people, there will be trials against this regime for crimes they have committed against humanity, and just as they will stand trial so will Rajavi and his wife Maryam for the crimes they have committed against Iranians and the US servicemen…

    The MEK, MKO ,NLA,PMOI,,NCR,NCRI or whatever other name they have are a losing cause in Iran, no one likes them, no one trusts them and on top of that no one wants a organization where its philosophy is mix of Marxism and Islam.

    What the people of Iran want is a free Iran, where there is seperation of church and state and where the government is for the people, where there will be Democracy.

  • http://justicendpeace.wordpress.com justicendpeace
  • http://justicendpeace.wordpress.com justicendpeace

    What a prediction!!! Did you expect this sort of nonsense would be left unanswered? Any sensible human rights advocate would challenge these arguments that sharpen the blade for the executioner.

  • http://justicendpeace.wordpress.com justicendpeace

    Do you expect me to believe that you did not know the site belongs to Iran’s MOIS, especially after you repeat all the allegations that have been taken from regime sites? A mix of Marxism and Islam is the allegation only dictatorial regime officials have used against PMOI. It was used by the Shah’s SAVAK and then by Ayatollahs’ SAVAMA. So stop pretending you are for a free Iran.

  • http://justicendpeace.wordpress.com justicendpeace

    Maryam Rajavi’s Ten Point Platform for Future Iran

    1. From our point of view, the ballot box is the only criterion for legitimacy. Accordingly, we seek a republic based on universal suffrage.

    2. We want a pluralist system, freedom of parties and assembly. In Iran of tomorrow, we will respect all individual freedoms. Expression of opinion, speech and the media are completely free and any censorship or inquisition is banned.

    3. In the free Iran of tomorrow, we support and are committed to the abolition of death penalty.

    4. The Iranian Resistance is committed the separation of the church and the State. Any form of discrimination against the followers of all religions and denominations will be prohibited.

    5. We believe in complete gender equality in political, social and economic arenas. We also committed to equal participation of women in political leadership. Any form of discrimination against women will be abolished. They will enjoy the right to freely choose their clothing.

    6. We want to set up a modern legal system based on the principles of presumption of innocence, the right to defense, and the right to be tried in a public court. We also seek the total independence of judges. Cruel and degrading punishments will have no place in the future Iran.

    7. We are committed to the Universal Declaration of Humans Rights, and international covenants and conventions, including the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the Convention Against Torture, and the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of discrimination Against Women.

    8. We recognize private property, private investment and the market economy.

    9. Our foreign policy will be based on peaceful coexistence, international and regional peace and cooperation, as well as respect for the United Nations Charter. We will establish relations will all countries.

    10.We want the free Iran of tomorrow to be devoid of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction.

    If this is not democratic then what is?

  • http://justicendpeace.wordpress.com justicendpeace

    See the link:
    http://www.ncr-iran.org/en/images/stories/IL/IL-latest/ten_pionts_plan.pdf

    If this isi not democratic then what is?

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    You can believe what you want, if that site does belong to the regime I would like to see proof…

    Now since when did the MKO decide to change their tone from a communist party to a democratic party?

    When did Maryam write the 10 points of platform for future of Iran?

    And why has the MKO or MEK over the years kept changing their names? They have different form of idenities…

    6. We want to set up a modern legal system based on the principles of presumption of innocence, the right to defense, and the right to be tried in a public court. We also seek the total independence of judges. Cruel and degrading punishments will have no place in the future Iran.

    So does this mean that Maryam herself and her husband will stand trial when they decided to take side with Iraq against Iran?

    You know you can say what you want but at the end of the day Iranians in Iran will want answer from this MKO..

    As far as I know and the Iranians in Iran know the MKO is a dead cause and really do not have any voice in Iran and this is coming from someone that has been to Iran numerous times over the years..

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    This sure sounds like the MKO is a cult, dont you think??

    http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/refworld/rwmain?page=printdoc&docid=45d085002

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90
  • http://mehdi79.wordpress.com mehdi79

    Why are you repeating that MEK is Marxist? How do you that while decades-long veteran supporters haven’t heard that from within, other than the accusations of SAVAK and MOIS?

    I am sure Masooud and Maryam will proudly stand in any just court to defend any accusations, but am afraid those defectors and marxist-labeling agents who try to demonize the best sons and daughters of Iran will never volunteer to show up before the people, let alone the court.

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90
  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    If they are not a marxist they certainly are a cult organization.

    I remember years ago when Masoud was arrested in France and one or two of his followers decided to set themselves on fire, now a normal person wouldn’t do such a thing unless they are brainwashed…

    Like I said before I have met two or three people who were tricked into joining the MKO and when they wanted to get out they were told if they leave the group their families would be harmed. Can you explain this?

  • http://justicendpeace.wordpress.com justicendpeace

    The Iranian regime is paying 1200 agents in the West to publish demonizing articles about PMOI. You seem to have access to the archive, operating form the headquarters of MOIS. All these articles were filed as ‘secret documents’ with British and American Courts. The British Lord Chief Justice dismissed them as unfounded accusations and called the decision to put PMOI on the banned list based on these sorts of documents, “perverse”.

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    Is that your excuse that the regime has 1200 agents publishing articles?? lol

    You know where ever the British are involved that is bad news..All of the world problems are mostly due to them. And majority of the Iranians know the regime paychecks comes directly from the British…

    MEK, MKO ,NLA,PMOI,,NCR,NCRI ???? Why all the names? How come they keep changing names?

  • http://justicendpeace.wordpress.com justicendpeace

    I just wanted to prove that you are not after democracy for Iran as you pretended in the first place. You are just another mouthpiece for the brutal regime disguised as regime opponent to discredit the PMOI.

    I know likes of you are paid to monitor these articles and disseminate misinformation. So now that you are exposed, I feel I have done my job.

  • http://justicendpeace.wordpress.com justicendpeace

    “The Islamic regime in Iran is evil but the MKO, MEK or whatever you want to call them are far worse.” This is what you said that convinced me that you are an agent of MOIS. This line was adopted by MOIS in 1990’s especially after Khatami’s presidency in 1997.

    According to this rule, to preserve status quo i.e. continuation of the dreadful regime, it is hard to defend this brutality straight line so pretend that you are an opponent of the regime and disagree with regime actions and then try to demonize the only democratic alternative capable to bring about change to Iran. This is what I call advance Goebbels technique.

    Hitler’s propaganda man Joseph Goebbels was saying say a lie and repeat it enough people will believe it. Now according to the advance Goebbels’ technique of the ayatollahs, say a lot of lies and don‘t wait for people to believe it. It is sufficient for the good people to decide that the matter is too complicated and do nothing. All the devil wants is for the good people to do nothing hence accept status quo. i.e. continuity of this brutal regime. But the brave people of Iran have called this bluff and won’t budge any more.

    “Death to principle of Velayet-e- Faghih’ and ‘Deat to dictator’ and ‘Death to Khamenei’ are the kind of things we hear in the street of Iranian cities and that will be the way.

  • http://albertdavidson.wordpress.com albertdavidson

    Farfar90,
    The report you have cited was put together by Human Rights Watch and was totally debunked by a detailed report a European Parliament Parliament delegation prepared after visiting Camp Ashraf in October 2005. The HRW report was based on 12 hours of telephone interviews with 12 agents of the Iran’s Intelligence Ministry.
    The author of that report was on the advisory board of NIAC, a notorious lobby for Tehran inside the Beltway.
    Re the Nejat Association, you should have done your homework. UK Foreign Office described it as front for Tehran’s intelligence service: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wikileaks-files/london-wikileaks/8304709/IRAN-UK-SAYS-LEGAL-BASIS-FOR-EU-LISTING-OF-MEK-IS-FRENCH-INVESTIGATION.html).
    So, either you are part of that lobby or are completely uninformed. Either way, you have simply parroted Tehran’s propaganda.

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    LOOOL so now I’m the regimes agent, jesus just because I don’t agree with your points you have to accuse me of being a agent for a backward regime. It’s typical of Iranians to always accuse the other of being from another organization just because they do not agree with their view points.

    Like I said before and I will say it again, this regime will go and it will take its pathetic Islam with it. And if you think I’m the regime agent, well I had my run in with this regime when I was in Iran, since then I decided I will not go back to that backward country until the regime is gone.

    Once it is gone I will be there and believe me just like the rest of the Iranians in Iran, the MKO will not have a place, they Massoud and Maryam just like Khameni and his cronies will need to stand trial..

    You are fighting a losing battle thinking the MKO will come into power in Iran, actually it is a wishful thinking. You can not brainwash the youths of Iran, they have been through enough to know better.

    And I like how you avoid my question about the MKO, why they have so many name changes over the years??

    The only person I think that may qualify for leading the people of Iran would be Reza Pahlavi, he has said he is just another Iranian doing is duties and if the people ask him to lead the country he will and guess what? The Iranian youths in Iran actually support him..

  • http://albertdavidson.wordpress.com albertdavidson

    farfar90

    “I remember years ago when Masoud was arrested in France and one or two of his followers decided to set themselves on fire, now a normal person wouldn’t do such a thing unless they are brainwashed…”

    First of all do you fact checking. Massoud [Rajavi] has never been arrested in France. He left France in 1986.

    Second, would you say the shopkeeper who set himself ablaze in Tunisia, that set off the whole sets of revolutions in the Middle East and North Africa, brainwashed into doing that?

    You logic fails dismally I am afraid.

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    Just wondering why the moderators are not posting my comments? I’ve been trying since Sunday to post one (is it being moderated by the author himself?). My comment is respectful, well-reasoned and well-supported.

  • seydsaba

    Support Hillary in removing MEK from the banned list.
    We need all the support against the dictatorship of Iran.
    It’s time to union not division.
    Thank you!!

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    I wonder if Karon had the decency of an impartial journalist (expected from a “senior” editor of TIME) to contact the MEK in Paris to ask them about these outlandish, stale and debunked allegations.

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    I seriously doubt Karon has done what every serious journalist should do: check your sources and make sure you get the other side of the story because as the old adage goes, “There’s more to it than meets the eye.” (I’ll continue in subsequent posts…)

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    Re: the “cult” business, Karon has provided a link to a totally biased, factually wrong and politically-motivated report prepared by RAND Corporation, without bothering to read the scathing refutation of that report prepared at the expense of US tax payers. (See: http://www.executiveaction.com/randreport).

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    As for the “Islamic Marxist” allegation, Karon should have taken the time to read:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-safavi/mujahedin-e-khalq-pmoimek_b_482770.html

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    As to whether the MEK used terror tactics in the past century, Karon should have looked at:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-safavi/reality-check-understandi_b_548491.html

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    Karon in many ways contradicts himself.. On the one hand he claims US protection of Camp Ashraf was the result of neocons wanting to use the MEK as a proxy to attack Iran and on the other hand he rehashes the pathetic anti-MEK tirade of Michael Rubin, a well-known, albeit demoralized, neocon. He of course fails to inform the readers that Rubin diatribe against the MEK was effectively rebutted in “Missing the Mark on Iran” (See: http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=5765).

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    As for Mr. Karoubi and Mr. Moussavi, I have read many statements by the MEK, in which the group has condemned Tehran’s onslaught against them and their supporters. (See: http://www.ncr-iran.org/en/ncri-statements/iran-protests/10001-maryam-rajavi-clerical-rule-will-eventually-fall-by-peoples-uprising). Nonetheless, it is worth reminding Time readers that both men oversaw one the bloodiest periods of the ayatollahs’ reign of terror in the 1980s, when tens of thousands of political prisoners were executed. Indeed, they proudly defended their condoning of the massacre of 30,000 political prisoners in a spate of few months in 1988. Amnesty International has described that massacre as one of most manifest cases of crime against humanity, whose perpetrators are yet to face justice.

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    What we see in the streets of Tehran and elsewhere in Iran have little to do with Karoubi and Moussavi. The prevailing slogan is “down with the principle of the velayat-e faqih (absolute clerical rule).” Guess whose slogan this has been over the past 30 years? The MEK.

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    The question that Karon fails to address is that if the MEK is inconsequential when it comes to the internal dynamics of Iran, why are the mullahs so paranoid about it. (See leaked State Department cables on WikiLeaks: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wikileaks-files/london-wikileaks/8304709/IRAN-UK-SAYS-LEGAL-BASIS-FOR-EU-LISTING-OF-MEK-IS-FRENCH-INVESTIGATION.html).

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    Regardless of one’s opinion about the MEK, these former senior officials are simply echoing what Rep. Brad Sherman, Ranking Member of the House Subcommittee on Terrorism, non-proliferation and Trade, told Secretary Clinton during a hearing at the Foreign Affairs Committee on March 1: “I asked for a classified briefing of the relevant subcommittee, the State Department refused because of the litigation, the intelligence community provided it. And frankly, after that classified briefing, I thought that perhaps there was nothing done this century that justified the MEK being on that list and it provided substantial ammunition to the belief that the MEK is on the list as part of the peace offering or concession to Tehran.”

    Do you get it Tony?

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    Pictures speak louder than words., here are pictures of massoud whoring himself to Khomeni, Arafat and Saddam and you you wondering why Iranians hate this scum? lol

    MKO leader with Khomeni, he helped bring Khomeni into power
    http://mahan.free.fr/pics/raj5.jpg

    MKO leader with Arafat
    http://www.iranian.com/main/files/blogimages/MKO_Arafat.jpg

    Massoud with his master Saddam.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Massoud_Rajavi.jpg

    Massound kissing his master Saddam
    http://www.iran-interlink.org/userfiles/Image/massoud%20rajavi%20and%20saddam%20kissing.jpg

    Massoud shaking hands of the sob that used chemical weapons on Iranians

    http://www.nejatngo.org/Storage/image/MEK/Rajavi_Saddam_Cooper/Rajavi_Saddam_1_S.jpg

    Massoud with his Master again.
    http://www.iran-interlink.org/userfiles/Image/massoud%20rajavi%20saddam%20hussein%20baghdad.JPG

    Need I say more??

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    You are right it wasn’t massoud that gotr arrested it was Maryam for couple of days and one or two of the follower set themselves on fire. They were brainwashed.

    The guy that set himselve on fire in Tunsia was fighting for freedom for his country it is different than setting youself on fire for somone that is in jail for a few days..lol

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    So the author of the article is??

    Ali Safavi.Member of Iran’s Parliament in Exile; President of Near East Policy Research

    No cookie for you buddy..

    I do have one question,

    How come there MKO/MEK, and so many oither alias? I have asked this numerous times on this forum and none of you care to answer.

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    Was this slogan that the MEK came up with before or after Massound helped take the US embassy hostage and help bring Khemonie into power?

  • http://freeiran111.wordpress.com freeiran111

    FarFar90, you’re “far far” away from making any sense.

  • http://farfar90.wordpress.com farfar90

    Can anyone answer this question for me?

    The MEK, MKO ,NLA,PMOI,,NCR,NCRI , why all these alias???

    Seems like the members are avoiding this question.

  • http://albertdavidson.wordpress.com albertdavidson

    farfar90,
    Here is your answer if Tony posts my reply. He did not post my previous ones.

    MEK: acronym for the Farsi name of Mujahedin-e Khalq. This acronym was first used by the State Department and journalists later picked it up.
    MKO: acronym for Monafeqin-e Khalq Organization. This is a pejorative term used by the Iranian regime. It is roughly translated into the hypocrites.
    PMOI: acronym for the English name People’s Mojahedin Organization of Iran (This is the official acronym the organization uses).
    NCRI and NCR are acronyms for the National Council of Resistance of Iran or National Council of Resistance. NCRI is different from the PMOI/MEK. It is a secular coalition in the form of a parliament in exile. PMOI/MEK is one member, albeit the largest, member of the NCRI, which has four other organizations and 500-plus individual members, including prominent Iranian opposition figures, former ambassadors, writers, intellectuals, athletes, artists, academics, industrialists, etc. It also has Christian, Jewish, Sunni, Zoroastrian, Kurdish, Baluchi, Azeri and other religious and ethnic minorities as its members. Half of its membership is women.

    Satisfied now?

  • http://azadi2011.wordpress.com azadi2011

    Here are 10 facts about the MEK everyone should know:

    1) Iran’s opposition Green Movement rejects the MEK: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/03/26/iran_green_movement/index.html

    2) Most, if not all, of the MEK’s most prominent supporters are paid handsomely for their efforts. http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/ex-officials_say_they_were_paid_to_attend_pro-mek_events.php

    3) The MEK no support in Iran. http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/02/24/washingtons_dangerous_and_deluded_support_for_the_mek

    4) The MEK is a cult. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/13/magazine/13MUJAHADEEN.html

    5) Before his overthrow, the MEK received most of its financial support and all its material support from Saddam Hussein. http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2009/140900.htm

    6) The MEK support Saddam by aiding his deadly crackdown against the Kurds and Shia. Maryam Rajavi, the MEK’s permanent leader, even instructed her followers to “take the Kurds under your tanks.” http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/13/magazine/13MUJAHADEEN.html

    7) The MEK strongly supported the takeover of the US Embassy in 1979, advocated for the US hostages to be tried and executed, and even opposed their eventual release. http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1993_cr/h930929-terror-pmoi.htm

    8) The MEK wasn’t added to the Foreign Terrorist Organization List as a Goodwill Gesture to Iran. It’s been on the list since it was first created in 1997, and was listed in the Patterns on Global Terrorism for years prior to that. http://www.state.gov/www/global/terrorism/annual_reports.html

    9) The Bush administration determined in 2007 that “MEK leadership and members across the world maintain the capacity and will to commit terrorist acts in Europe, the Middle East, the United States, Canada, and beyond.” http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2006/82738.htm

    10) American credibility and goodwill among the Iranian people would be destroyed if the US supported this group. (See points 1-9)

  • http://azadi2011.wordpress.com azadi2011
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