Why Bin Laden’s Death No Longer Really Matters

Before leaving for a vacation in South Africa in December of 2001, my editor asked me to prepare an obituary for Osama bin Laden for TIME.com on the assumption that he might well be killed in Afghanistan while I was on the beach in Cape Town. Almost ten years later there was finally a reason to call up the old file: President Barack Obama said late Sunday that the al-Qaeda leader had been killed in a U.S. raid in the Pakistani town of Abbottabad, and that the U.S. was in possession of his body.

But where killing or capturing Bin Laden might once have been imagined to be a decisive turning point in a struggle between the U.S. and its challengers in the Muslim world, today, the death of America’s erstwhile nemesis is little more than an historical footnote — a settling of accounts for a spree of ugly crimes and the elimination of a symbol of global jihadist nihilism, perhaps, offering justice and closure for the victims of 9/11 and other atrocities. But it does little to alter the challenges facing the U.S. and its allies in Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Pakistan or any other major country in the Muslim world. That’s because much to his chagrin, Bin Laden and his movement have achieved only marginal  relevance to power struggles throughout the Muslim world. The strategy of spectacular acts of a terror had briefly allowed a band of a few hundred desperadoes to dominate America’s headlines and its nightmares, but on the ground in the Muslim world al-Qaeda had largely been a sideshow, failing miserably in its goal of rallying the Islamic world behind its banners and finding itself eclipsed by such despised rivals in the battle for Islamist leadership as Iran, Hizballah, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.

(More on Time.com: See photos of bin Laden’s family album)

Here’s some of what I wrote in December 2001:

We can say with relative certainty that Osama bin Laden is not right now enjoying the attentions of 70 virgins in paradise. But with the same certainty we can predict that he will live on, years and even decades from now, on the T-shirts, key-chains and calendars of the Muslim world’s malcontents. Indeed, in the rarefied climes of rebel icons, Bin Laden has become the Islamist Che Guevara.
It was long before September 11 that Osama bin Laden first chose to die. Authoring the most dramatic terror attack in history had simply compressed the timeframe of the inevitable ‘martyrdom’ he first envisaged two decades earlier in the same mountains of southeastern Afghanistan where a simple TKTKTK ended his life on TKTK. The video spectacle of bin Laden cackling ghoulishly over the number of innocents his human bombs had killed in the World Trade Center will underscore the grim satisfaction in the West and among its allies in the east, near and far, at the Saudi terrorist’s ignominious end. But the story of Bin Laden’s rise is a cautionary tale of perils that persist despite the elimination of a man who had, of late, come to personify them.

Bin Laden’s decision to sacrifice his life in service of an implacable pan-Islamic nationalism would likely have been taken two decades earlier, when the pious young Saudi multimillionaire first ventured into Afghanistan.
Back then, of course, he was an American ally, selflessly putting his fortune, his career and even his body on the line to rally Islamic firebrands from all over the world to help wage jihad against the Soviet infidels who had invaded Muslim lands. That effort, covertly backed and orchestrated by the U.S. as well as Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan, saw an improbable triumph, as lightly-armed guerrilla forces put to flight the world’s largest conventional army. But it had other, unintended consequences. The Afghan jihad had drawn together Muslim radicals from all over the world, and trained and organized them into an International Brigade of Islamist fighters, feeding off each other’s extremism, their victory feeding fevered dreams of reviving the long-lost Islamic empire of old – or at least of being able to roll back contemporary foes in conflicts around the globe. (Had the Republican cause prevailed in Spain in the 1930, the Communist International would have found itself with a similar cadre of battle-hardened veterans ready for deployment in the world’s sharpest class wars.)

The somewhat naïve but highly motivated bin Laden found himself in the orbit of hardened Islamist zealots from all over the world, his own views growing increasingly hard-line as he found himself assiduously courted particularly by the Egyptian radicals who saw his potential as a global terrorist leader in his wealth, his connections with Arab elites and his charisma.

For bin Laden and those around him, the message of the Soviet retreat was simple: armed with unshakable faith that they are soldiers of god and a willingness to die fighting, jihadists could prevail over ‘infidels.’ The “Afghan Arabs” were not men who could easily return their own countries — Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other pro-Western Arab regimes had used the Afghan jihad as an opportunity to “export” their domestic Islamist nuisances, and weren’t about to allow them back as combat-hardened warriors to renew their seditious efforts. Bin Laden shared their predicament. Afghanistan had hardened his opposition to the Saudi royal family, which failed to measure up to his measure of Islamic legitimacy. And when the king invited U.S. troops onto Saudi soil to defend the kingdom against any threat from Iraq, Bin Laden was outraged — a new set of infidels were being invited onto the sacred ground of Islam’s birthplace. Bin Laden was now on a collision course with the House of Saud, and despite his family’s deep-rooted ties to the royal family, he found himself expelled.

For Bin Laden, that was simply confirmation of the analysis he’d developed in Afghanistan: The undemocratic, un-Islamic regimes of the Arab world were but servants of the United States, whose presence and influence in the Arab and Muslim world was the prime obstacle to his dream of a pan-Islamic political revival. At bases in Afghanistan, and in the Sudan where an Islamist regime made room for him after his expulsion by the Saudis, bin Laden kept his Afghan Arabs together in his al-Qaeda organization. They were sent to fight in Chechnya, Bosnia and other places Muslims were under fire or waging separatist battles, spreading their example of selfless sacrifice to spread the tentacles of a global network whose ultimate confrontation would pit it against its supreme ‘infidel’ enemy, the United States.

Bin Laden believed America could be beaten. His objective, after all, was not to conquer the U.S. but rather to end its presence and pervasive influence in the lands of Islam. Exhibit A was the U.S. withdrawal from Beirut in 1985, after Hizbollah blew up a Marine barracks there killing more than 200 U.S. troops. The bloody carnage of Mogadishu in 1993, in which 17 U.S. soldiers were killed in an abortive raid on a local warlord, also led to a hasty retreat — today U.S. officials believe operatives linked with bin Laden helped train the Somali gunmen who ambushed the Americans. And in his propaganda, bin Laden certainly claimed the incident as further proof of his basic thesis — that the U.S. would withdraw from Muslim countries if the cost of staying was rendered too high.

Bin Laden and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad leaders at the helm of his movement had global ambitions quite unlike any terrorist organization that had gone before them. Previous terrorist luminaries such as the Palestinian Abu Nidal had generally led organizations drawn from a single country, and had been entirely dependent on state sponsors for sanctuary and survival — states such as Libya, Syria and Iran had all used such groups to send bloody political messages to their foes. Al Qaeda was different: its members were drawn from all over the Muslim world, their core cemented during the Afghan jihad; and they operated entirely independently of any state sponsorship. Indeed, far from such authoritarian precincts as Tripoli, Tehran and Damascus, al Qaeda preferred to establish its bases in locales where state authority had all but collapsed — Sudan, Somalia and Afghanistan.

And rather than slowly grow their organization from the ground up, bin Laden and his henchmen saw mergers-and-acquisitions as the way to go. The model, unconsciously, may have been the Communist International — Lenin in 1921 had managed to reproduce his Bolshevik party on a global scale by simply absorbing preexisting, ideologically compatible leftist parties from almost every country into a global umbrella organization.

Bin Laden set out the ideological basis for his Islamist International in his February 1998 statement declaring a “World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Crusaders and Jews.” It cited three key issues of universal concern to Muslims — the presence of American troops in Saudi Arabia, the ongoing U.S. campaign against Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian situation — and used these as a basis to call for a global war of terror against America and its allies. “To kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque (in Jerusalem) and the holy mosque (in Mecca) from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim.”

Back then, of course, bin Laden was a relative nobody in the Islamic world, and the only co-signatories of his jihad declaration were his Egyptian Islamic Jihad sidekick and/or mentor Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, and representatives of three even smaller groups from Egypt, Pakistan and Bangladesh. The Russian Revolution had communists from all over the planet rushing to join Lenin’s international; bin Laden had yet to convince the world’s radical Islamists of his own leadership credentials. That changed six months later, when bin Laden operatives blew up two U.S. embassies in East Africa. And the factor that made bin Laden the undisputed champion of the world’s most radical lslamists was less the fact of the carnage he’d wrought simultaneously in Kenya and Tanzania, than the U.S. response. By firing off a slew of cruise missiles onto two continents in a vain bid to kill bin Laden and destroy his assets, the Clinton administration succeeded only in creating a fireworks display that heralded bin Laden’s ordination as America’s nemesis. For many Islamists skeptical of bin Laden’s preposterous sounding claim to be leading a global jihad against America, Washington’s response gave pause for thought — a man that hated and feared by the U.S. had unrivaled claim to lead the Islamists. (At least that was what he was hoping.)

It was not Bin Laden’s own actions, but the U.S. response to them, that had put him on the map, back in 1998. And that process was to be amplified in the years to come.

Well, yes, but only briefly. The U.S. invasions of Afghanistan and then Iraq put it in conflict with nationalist insurgencies in which al-Qaeda had a limited, if any role. By the middle of the past decade, already, the U.S. was talking of its prime adversary in the region as being an “Axis of Resistance” led by Iran and comprising Syria and non-state but nonetheless popular nationalist actors such as Hizballah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Palestinian territories. And that “resistance” front had little time for al-Qaeda, while Bin Laden’s spokesmen reserved some of their most venomous rhetoric for Iran, Hizballah and Hamas. (More on Time.com: See the top 10 defining moments of the post 9/11 era)

Those groups remain far more powerful than al-Qaeda ever was because they’re rooted in national movements and conditions, and have built popular support bases over many years.  Just as Lenin’s Comintern proved an unworkable model for global revolution, so did al-Qaeda prove to be a chimera. The center of gravity of opposition to the U.S. and its allies in the Muslim world  remains with nationally-based movements who are confronting a specific enemy around a clear set of grievances and goals that are at least conceivably attainable. Hamas or Hezbollah are not much interested in restoring a Caliphate to rule from Spain to Indonesia; their goals are far more specific and localized. And in the end, while Bin Laden’s movement could blow things up, it failed to ignite any sustainable forms of struggle – like Che Guevara (also remembered more as a T-shirt icon of rebellion than for his rather unfortunate ideas of how it should be pursued), Bin Laden found that simply taking spectacular military action against even a hated foe would not necessarily rally the masses to join him in struggle or confront their own local tyrants. (Indeed, as much as they hated the U.S., many Arabs seemed unable to “own” 9/11, instead blaming it on the CIA or the Mossad, insisting that “Arabs could not have done this.”)

No decent people will grieve at Bin Laden’s passing. But nor will his elimination alter the challenges facing Washington in an Arab world that has found its own ways — quite different from Bin Laden’s — for challenging the writ of the U.S. and its allies in the Muslim world. Bin Laden may have desperately sought the mantle of champion of Muslim resistance to the West, and a traumatized American media culture may have briefly granted him that role in the months that followed the horror of 9/11, but where it mattered most, among his own people, Bin Laden was an epic failure.

As I wrote last September,

Bin Laden’s problem from the very beginning was that while (polls show) a majority of Muslims around the world might have agreed with his charge of U.S. malfeasance in its dealings in the Middle East, only a tiny minority identified with terrorism as a response. Despite the virulently anti-American attitudes revealed in opinion surveys in parts of the Muslim world after 9/11, very few people were prepared to condone attacks on innocent civilians. That’s why so many people in Egypt and Pakistan bought into conspiracy theories about the CIA or Israel’s Mossad being behind the attacks.

The ubiquity of bin Laden’s image in the wake of the attacks suggested that he might become a kind of jihadist Che Guevara, destined to live on long after his death on an endless stream of T-shirts and tchotchkes. (Of course, he’d first have to be killed to test that theory.) But there’s another connection: Like the Saudi jihadist, the Argentinian revolutionary had mistakenly assumed that simply demonstrating through violence that a hated enemy was not invulnerable would automatically rouse the masses to rebellion.

While the 9/11 attacks made bin Laden the focus of American fear and rage, his “global jihad” failed to either eclipse or enlist its more localized Islamist rivals. Hamas confined itself to striking Israeli targets, and to competing with Fatah for local political power at the ballot box and on the streets; Hizballah continued to lock horns with Israel on its northern border and to engage in the complexities of Lebanese politics; Iran actually helped the initial U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan, although it soon resumed its struggle with Washington and its allies for influence throughout the Middle East. Al-Qaeda may still figure in U.S. debate, but it no longer garners any attention in the Arab political conversation — prompting it to issue increasingly hysterical denunciations of Hamas, Hizballah and Iran.

The only al-Qaeda “chapter” to gain any traction was the one that came into existence in Iraq in response to the U.S. invasion, and thrived while its presence was tolerated as a force multiplier by mainstream Sunni insurgents. But the group’s ideology and propensity for vicious sectarian murder of Shi’ites turned the insurgents against them, and eventually the bulk of the insurgency turned on al-Qaeda, with many Sunni insurgents going onto the U.S. payroll under the rubric of the “Awakening” movement. (The uptick of al-Qaeda attacks in Iraq in recent months has coincided with the growing alienation of Sunnis, particularly in the “Awakening” movement, from the Shi’ite-led government. And a political solution to Iraq’s political conflict will no doubt once again shut it out.)

A similar fate almost certainly awaits the movement in Afghanistan, where its erstwhile Taliban ally is fighting a nationalist campaign against foreign armies, which will inevitably end in a power-sharing political settlement. And even Taliban leaders have indicated they won’t allow their territory to be used as a base to export terrorism.

If anything, hostility towards the U.S. in the Muslim world has actually escalated over the past nine years, because of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and Israel’s conflicts with its neighbors. But al-Qaeda, ironically, remains on the margins. It’s not inconceivable that bin Laden’s men will get lucky again at some point in the future, but not even another major terror strike would change the basic calculus of al-Qaeda’s demise.

Read TIME’s obituary; See pictures of Osama Bin Laden; Watch a video about Ground Zero then and now.

More on Time.com:

Photos: Closure at Ground Zero

Photos: The U.S. Celebrates bin Laden’s Death

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  • http://www.theenglishsource.com Ms. Patricia Babbitt

    Booooo!!!!!

  • http://workhorseindy.wordpress.com workhorseindy

    Tell that to thousand celebrating in the streets.

    Justice has been served and you better damn well believe that matters.

  • http://compuwise.wordpress.com compuwise

    It matters TIME. It matters. Don’t down play.

  • http://ylingaw.wordpress.com ylingaw

    his death matter! . . not in spite of, but especially because with the recent turmoil and developments in the arab world marginalizing the relevance of his terror network, he was believed to be planning another series of high profile attacks to bolster his organization . . . and that is not to mention the terror he has already brought to the world.

  • http://hpgal3.wordpress.com hpgal3

    Oh, button up.This is the most likely reaction after ten years. I’m not trying to take anyone’s celebration away or undermine the morality boost, but if we realize this now, we can start working on the numerous other problems we currently have with the Middle East.

  • http://propellresearch.wordpress.com propellresearch

    The problem is that bin Laden has won. 9/11 led to America getting dragged in to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, so costly that they have brought the USA to the edge of financial ruin, with $1 trillion spent on the wars.

  • http://abdurrahmanx.wordpress.com abdurrahmanx

    The writer here is right and wrong. In the big picture, bin Laden’s death is not huge and not a solution to the big problems. But in all of us, there is a need for vengeance. For Americans, this vengeance has been nine years coming and that makes it huge. I would also suggest as an American Muslim that there are many in the Muslim world who see bin Laden as a huge embarrassment. Now we can begin to breath easier and work towards inter-religious harmony without having to deal with the bogeyman who was Osama. I can best summarize this by saying that when bad happens to a Muslim, we have a statement of grief, “to Allah we return” I know for me, I can’t say this for bin Laden because he declared himself my enemy. So instead for me I say “praise be to God.” This death affects everyone and when billions celebrate, it is no small thing.

  • longtimedead1

    This changes nothing in the long term, probably. In the short term a few people will celebrate this death and some will not.

    Al Qaeda is not the dominant terrorist force some would have us believe, and is not a hierarchical organisation. There is no head to cut off.

    Obama may get a better run to re-election.

    Obama may use this as a reason to draw down troop commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan….. which will help reduce the debt.

    But really, this is most likely a footnote, not ‘mission accomplished’.

  • http://tabbaasco.wordpress.com tabbaasco

    It does matter, for symbolism, closure and for justice. As an Arab, I remember many years when my relatives and friends thought of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein as the saviors of Islamism and Arabism respectively, the poles that opposed the harshness and ignorance of US policy in the Middle East. From the lowest taxi drivers to ministers in the Jordanian state, people were unanimous in their adulation for Osama. His end at the hands of US forces will hopefully close this chapter of extremism and shift the Arab progressive discourse to things that matter. I think his end will be hailed by all Arabs seeking freedom and dignity.

  • http://cudablu.wordpress.com cudablu

    As typical of all Republicans Mr. Tony Karon refuses to give Pres. Obama his just due. I’m sure if he was another color, Mr. Karon would be sending the Pres. high praise. And yes it does matter to the families that lost loved ones on 9/11.

  • http://benlyvm.wordpress.com benlyvm

    I agree, though the fact that Bin Laden is dead is very significant to those who lost loved ones in 9/11, and this is important for America to validate or legitimate its power, the truth is that his death is just one more death in this very complicated system. What is sure, is that his death will most likely bring a wave of retaliation, which is something to be aware of, and most importantly is that Bin Laden’s successor could be much worse than him, which would make the remedy worse than the illness.

    I think the most part of the american people should develop a better critical sense of their government and what they let see with their political agenda, and security policy. Its important to know what goes on around the world to have an educated perspective about what is going on in our own country and how foreign and local policy works.

  • http://benlyvm.wordpress.com benlyvm

    Honestly, from a person who doesn’t care about color, religion or any other minority related discrimination… since I AM part of most of them, I dont believe his analysis on the situation is wrong. Bin Laden’s death is strategic, its a step closer to closing a chapter in America’s history, but its certainly not what most people are making it to be. At least not for the american people. I think its more important, as tabbaasco said, for those who are looking to be disassociated with the terror that Bin Laden arose.

  • http://jpfromcavecreek.wordpress.com jpfromcavecreek

    I agree with Mr. Karon.

    Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad the boogie-man is dead and for personal reasons, it *DOES* matter to me.

    However we are funding terrorism at the gas pump and have done nothing to address that in 10 years. If we had spent one-tenth of what we’ve spent spent on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on serious alternative energy research, I have to believe that the “Axis of Resistance” would have been dealt a much more crippling blow.

    One trillion dollars and counting, thousands of American lives, tens of thousands of Afghani and Iraqi lives and precious little to show for it.

    I’m happy that Bin Ladin is dead. Perhaps now we can focus on steps that can move us forward.

  • HulkSmashNow

    Bin Laden’s death may not matter to you, but it matters to thousands of people who lost loved ones in the attacks on 9/11 and to the thousands of soldiers who continue to fight for us in the Middle East and beyond. It matters to me, too, because after ten long years, justice was done, and this SOB finally got what was coming to him.

  • http://joshiiz.wordpress.com joshiiz

    tony karon isn’t a republican he’s a left leaning liberal. how is he typical of “all republicans” if he isn’t even one? and have you conducted a poll of every republican, or put more research into this subject than you did on the author here?

  • http://tudsmister.wordpress.com tudsmister

    you keep saying muslim world this, muslim world that. bin laden wasnt a muslim leader, he was a terrorist. it means something that a evil man that killed thousands is now dead.

  • http://tudsmister.wordpress.com tudsmister

    here here

  • yadayadayadaa

    How many people have their credit stolen at work when they do a good job? 10 years, i’m surprised anyone actually followed through with the duty… not surprised their credit is given to obama

  • http://peterjhouston.wordpress.com peterjhouston

    I suppose that if your goal as a writer is to get people like me to read your blog, this article’s title is effective. Also, if your goal is to provoke a visceral response from readers, the article itself is effective. And, I suppose that taking a beyond-rediculous position and arguing it is probably a rewarding diversion for some form of higher intelligence that is beyond my ability to comprehend. If any of these statements are true about this article, then ‘hey, have at it.’

    But, if the writer really believes that Bin Laden’s death doesn’t matter, then he’s nothing short of a boob and/or proof that journalists still need to write crap if they want to eat. (I’m actually hoping it’s the ‘or’ – I suspect he’s actually pretty smart, and probably hungry or has kids of college age).

    Why am I worked up? I read crap all the time and don’t get worked up. But, in this case, the issue is of global importance, the hypothesis is rediculous, proving that Bin Laden’s death *does* matter takes literally no thought, and (I guess) the writer’s timing just sucks.

    As long as Bin Laden was alive, there was an unfinished element of every american’s life. Much like having a son who was missing in action in a war. You know after a couple of months that he’s not coming back. But, until his remains are found, and brought home, there is no closure.

    Or, when a killer is shooting innocent people from the trunk of his car, everyone (not just those who live in the city where murders are happening) needs to *know* he’s never going to kill again — not just hope.

    We as Americans also can’t just avert our eyes from the fact that people have been murdered – even if we could somehow know that the killer would never kill again. We demand the knowledge that the killer has been caught, and brought to justice.

    Bin Laden and 911 demanded closure and now we have it.

  • http://uber8alles.wordpress.com lkfc

    How expensive was this “justice” and continues to be? More people have suffered economically and mentally in the past 10 years here. And we find out that he was in a 1 mil mansion!!!
    Go through a TSA point, daily monetary and military cost of operation and I wonder if justice has finally been “served”.
    And killing somelike ObL will only incite the Arab world even more.

  • yadayadayadaa

    omg, i live in a country that has freedom to speak, please here my opinion, im desperate for people to read my opinions in the comment section

  • yadayadayadaa

    nothing you said in your attempt to sound smart, builds cars, produces food, shelter or jobs…

  • ramzx

    peterjhouston …

    You are probably correct. There will always be some meathead that has to get their 15 minutes of fame, no matter how stupid they appear. Can’t wait to hear the Tea Party’s spin on this. Probably give credit to Limbaugh or Palin.

  • http://dontknow667.wordpress.com rbreau1

    The terrorists did win, one trip throught the LA airport should be evidence of that.

    I suspect had Bill Clinton been more effective on the attacks in 1998 and 2000 that TSA would not be there.

  • http://machahir123.wordpress.com machahir123

    see now this exlusive video here to ben laden
    http://machahir123.blogspot.com/

  • http://ducproductions.wordpress.com souljaboss

    To me it dont reall matter because its things going on here in the u.s to be thinking of someone i dont really think is dead remember he did have sons lots sons and we do no we all could look like our father in lots ways then he was a survivor and smart so i think someone is cover up we do no how cia work and fbi so think do you really think hes dead i dont

  • http://www.westex.nl hanswesterveld

    Well your vacation seems more important than the dead of mr. Laden!

  • michaelfury

    The Bogeyman has been buried at sea? Seriously?

    Too bad. Now we will never know where he got the nanothermite.

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/04/11/the-rest-is-silence/

  • detroitice

    Agree! For years the press has reported that the public had started to grow weary of thinking about 9/11. Wrong. So wrong. Did it look like that awesome crowd in front of the White House had stopped caring?

    I know Bin Laden’s death won’t fix the big problem, but for anyone who witnessed 9/11, it matters. Big time.

  • http://vagwoo.wordpress.com vagwoo

    I dont think he is dead. The picture of his dead corpse is clearly fake.

    http://www.real-privacy.eu.tc

  • http://chrism68.wordpress.com chrism68

    This just in “Tony Karon fired” – it doesn’t really matter.

  • http://salmahousectg.wordpress.com mahboobchowdhury

    Nothing is going to change.Terrorism has become a world wide Corporate.

  • venturen

    The guy writing this shows what fools TIME blogger/employees are. Of course this matters. Just because it was hard and took a long time doesn’t mean it doesn’t make a difference. This shows that American has a very long arm and a good memory. And that to any that think they can hide…you will be found and dispatched. I didn’t read the whole article as with many left leaning writers their thought pattern is so illogical that it is painful to read.
    Tony get another job as you shouldn’t be announcing that you “know” anything!

  • pintortwo

    OBL’s death is important on an emotional level. But that’s not what Karon is talking about. As far politics, policy and our interaction with the rest of the world’s nations, I expect this changes little… unless it inspires citizens to demand an end to the wars overseas, which, I’m afraid, is unlikely.

  • zct168

    I think his death matters a lot more than you think. And frankly the hyperbole of your article title is little more than a deliberate attempt to fly in the face of mainstream opinion.

    What happened sends a very clear message that if you attack us, there is nowhere on the planet you can hide. Even if you are a millionaire with a fancy compound.

    Terrorists who plot disgusting and despicable acts need to know that justice will come for them eventually. Just like the Nazi torturers were not able to hide behind the excuse that they were only following orders.

    I am not a blood thirsty person, I’m not even a Republican, and I don’t support the death penalty, but this end is fitting for this evil man. And it is probably for the best that he was not taken alive only to participate in the insanity that would have been his trial and eventual sentence.

  • michaelfury

    Pity we cannot interrogate him about this part of the operation:

    http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/movers-and-shakers/

  • http://nymphthoosa.wordpress.com nymphthoosa

    You should be more careful when you say “muslim world”- he was never considered a true muslim simply because he was not.
    Muslims do hate him as much as Americans do and are as happy as the rest of the world. When I say “muslims” here, it surely does not include his followers since they are not true muslims either.

  • http://danielowen1.wordpress.com danielowen1

    Your wrong. it certainly does matter and we have every right to be happy. That S.O,B deserves it and now families of lost loved ones can sleep a little better at night knowing this murderer is dead

  • http://whlanteigne.wordpress.com whlanteigne

    The man who planned, financed, organized and ordered the senseless murder of nearly 3000 people on American soil has finally been brought down by an American bullet.

    It matters.

  • peddiebill

    Because he was symbolic to the US public of course his death matters. Reality however should acknowledge that since 9-11 bin Laden has been steadily less effective and his organisation seems much less involved in current political matters. However celebration seems unwarranted. The US was unable to prevent 9-11 and has now spent millions of dollars trying to track him down over more than a decade. In addition I seem to remember the celebrations when the then leader of the Afghanistan resistance was killed – and nothing got better as a result. Surely the outcome should include an evalution of what happens next.

  • http://rdthomas1999.wordpress.com rdthomas1999

    As a Catholic I hope the Arab Muslim community realizes that bin Laden’s death is great news. He, and al-Qaida, inconveniently reshaped much of the worlds perception of Arab Muslims as cold, heartless, bloodthirsty terrorists instead of the thoughtful, beautiful people that they really are – as we all are when we work at it – and no less peace loving than the rest of us.

  • happykein

    Did nobody actually read the article? Karon didn’t say Obama’s death wasn’t important to Americans or to a sense of justice. In fact, he said it was important for these things, as well as for a sense of closure. He said it wasn’t important for the developing relationship between America and the Muslim world. And he said it wasn’t important for that relationship because the Muslim world on the whole didn’t follow al-Qaida’s lead. Interesting article actually.

  • http://rbmatudan.wordpress.com rbmatudan

    As we approach the 10th anniversery of 9/11 thus makes some of the pain go away. Thank You to our military personnel who continue to fight and protect our way of life. This matters the most…

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  • http://pshrahman.wordpress.com pshrahman

    @HulkSmashNow
    “justice was done, and this SOB finally got what was coming to him”

    I wonder when justice will be done, and all the SOBs on the american side will get what they deserve.

  • http://pshrahman.wordpress.com pshrahman

    The hypocrisy of the americans is breathtaking. Do you realize how many innocents you have killed? Osama’s deeds pale in comparison.

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